Nether spiders

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chrlpolk
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Re: Nether spiders

Post by chrlpolk » Thu Jan 23, 2020 3:23 am

Visstar wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:46 pm
I believe the Silversword is special (*) in that anyone can use it. I haven't tried everyone, though.

* Special enough to have a whole game named after it....
The original Final Fantasy on NES had the Masamune Sword that all classes could use, but if you gave it to the Master (monk archetype), he would go from like 18 hits per attack to 3, and while the damage with the sword was quite significant, it didn't surpass the multitude of the unarmed attacks. Weapons were useful to the Master until about level 8. That's more what I was talking about.

Does the monk keep the same number of attacks, and does the kill chain work the same with weapons? Is the high level Monk's damage/kill chain with Silversword really as good as unarmed?

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Re: Nether spiders

Post by Visstar » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:18 pm

If the monsters can be critically hit, a monk with the Silversword will kill and have a chance at a chain attack. The odds depend on the level of the monk and the difficulty level of the dungeon. My monk killed 4-5 Aerial Soldiers in the Plane of Air per round on average, and could do more. (Nether Spiders are easier.) She used to kill 20 Demon Lords in a go before icetear changed the chain attack to make monks less godlike. I still have mixed feelings about that. :lol:

If the monster cannot be critically hit, you're probably better off using knuckledusters rather than the Silversword. I believe they do more damage, though the Silversword's protective bonuses have value as well, especially considering the monk's low hit points.
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Re: Nether spiders

Post by chrlpolk » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:18 am

Well now I've got to do another playthrough using a monk. I mean, I could just set up a monk in the back row and level quick with the postgame save but... nah, I'll just do another playthrough with a monk! 8-)

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Re: Nether spiders

Post by Visstar » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:55 pm

chrlpolk wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:18 am
Well now I've got to do another playthrough using a monk. I mean, I could just set up a monk in the back row and level quick with the postgame save but... nah, I'll just do another playthrough with a monk! 8-)
That's the spirit! :)

The worst part about the monk, as I think I mentioned, is the lack of armor. The better stuff for monks is pretty rare, even at higher levels. Since they receive very few hit points per level, this can be a problem. It will be a while before you even find a buckler (small shield) and much, much longer till you find a decent upgrade.

As far as I know, there is only one mithril rune in the entire game, and it was applied to a Buckler of Forgus I eventually found.
May the Vishanti guide me through this eldritch maze!

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